Good morning. (Good
morning)
Do you like to fight? (No.)
Why do we fight? (To win, to dream)
To dream? Wow, that's cosmic! There's a lot of fighting going on.
Right?
It's sad and I'm sure that in your own
ways, I don't know you individually, but I'm sure that you have to struggle
and you have to fight. So, for life in general, dealing with people because
you can't live alone. If you want to live alone, go live in a mountain and
become a "hunter and gatherer." (Laughter) You're more than that so you
fight.
That's one way to avoid fighting, just cut
off all the world, and just find some, if there is a piece of land left
over, where you can actually live that cave-man-like life. You can do that.
OK Having said that; why do we fight? What do we normally fight for?
Let's talk about physical things. Let's
talk about possessions. What do you in physical things, within the
limitations of physical things and possessions, the concept of possession,
what do we fight for? (something better, home,. truth)
We're just talking about physical stuff
here. I mean literally possession stuff. (control) Authority, control,
power, money, fame: They're just pure physical stuff. What do you
fight for on the next level, on an intellectual level? We fight an imbalance
called what's fair, what's righteous and all that stuff, all that
goody-goody stuff.
And what about the spirit? Ok before
we get to the spirit, let's just talk, let's dwell on this stuff for a
little while. When you break down the physical self what are you actually
trying to possess? Because it's about possession, what do you what to
possess beyond the generalities that I said earlier about power and money?
What does that give you? Why do you think that people pursue that stuff?
Because they want comfort; they want pleasure; they want control; they want
stuff like that.
They need to feel that kind of adoration.
Adoration is very physical. You know what I'm saying? Why do you want to be
adored? Why do you want people to like you? It's a physical thing. Unless
you have a reason for it. If you do have a reason for it that is of the
Divine it doesn't matter. Adoration doesn't become that physical in that
temporal sense. It really doesn't matter. And you get fixated to that stuff.
How do you think any kind of addiction
begins, whether you're addicted to what stuff ever here or there, sex, drugs
whatever. How do you think it begins? It's because you're fixated to that
stuff. That's it. All those things are very physical. The thing is that
physical and spiritual have some kind of reflective quality, a reflection
quality.
Physical stuff is very individual.
Spiritual stuff, all those things, you can feel it with God. What you see
when you look at yourself in the mirror is you, your reflection in opposite,
however you should see God in it, not just you.
Stuff in the middle, that's the problem
maker. That's why we fight, because we don't know how to control that
reality. We don't even know how to see that reality in the order, in
propriety, as God wants us to be. That's the difficult path, very difficult.
(Hyo-Jin-nim becomes very emotional with
tears from this point to the end of the talk.)
You will struggle to the end of your days.
Anybody who tells you otherwise... I won't see it. My children won't see it.
My grand children won't see it; my great-grandchildren won't see it. It will
take at least ten more generations. But you do certain things because you
believe that you can do something about what you don't like, what you want
to change because you think it's wrong. It's going to take time.
If anybody tells you otherwise, let them
do it give them everything you've got. Let them have every thing that you
have because it won't happen. I swear to God it won't happen. But we
believe in something right? We can make it right. Nobody's perfect right? At
best we have representation, the best we can have right? Hallelujah!
(Laughter)
We need to move on, trying to better
ourselves in making that understanding real. Think about it. You know God
has a right to love everybody right? You want things to change? Change
is love. What the heck is love? God just loves me, just you? No. Everybody,
right? You have to allow that to happen. You have to create that kind of
environment. That's what's important.
And I said what you fight about on the
physical was possessions and intellectual was imbalance. Spiritual is
arrogance. You can't be arrogant. You can't just say that "Oh your love is
mine, all mine!" You can't do that stuff.
If you truly love somebody, you want to
love everything that you have in front of you, right? Do you select your
kids "I just want to love this kid and kill the other ones?" You can't do
that. It's wrong. I don't think that anybody teaches that to be true love.
It has got to order more and more, deeper,
broader and broader, higher and higher, in all sorts of ways in three
dimensions and beyond. If we can achieve it, let's just think what we can do
in physical terms. That's what we need to focus on. That's the kind of
church that we need to be. Otherwise just...
I want to live up to my expectation that
this name puts me under, this slavery. I'll do it. I'll do it. As long as
you... If you're here, I'll be here. No problem. Stuff happens… every
day. It's not that bad. You always have to move on and hopefully you can
make progress, Quality! Quantity! Speed!
That's all you can do… and you'll die.
(Laughter) Isn't that the absolute truth? Anyway... We'll try
right? Let's not fight OK?
Loving is difficult enough I don't want to
fight, Okay?
Take care.
(Two taps on the podium)
