Hyo Jin Moon

 

Love

 

Tarrytown, New York

July 2, 2006

Edited Transcript by Joe Kinney

 

This week’s topic is ‘Love.’ I felt obliged because during my week some old member came to ask me for some counsel and I had to talk about marriages and stuff because he was struggling with that, the blessing that he has gotten and… came and …  

I guess, in a general statement, anytime you go to church, you are going to talk somehow about love, because everything else sucks. That’s about it, I guess. So, okay. So, to people to that need, I’m going to try my best to talk about something .. love in a way that I can somehow relate to you and you can relate to me.  

Individually speaking, we realize that we have within ourselves three different partialities, three different propensities. There is physical, intellectual, and spiritual. And the ultimate quest, I guess, in individual lives, which is very short to begin with, isn’t that long.  

You have to somehow figure out how you can manage to control your body, mind, and spirit because it does have very unique properties. It does have a very individualistic propensity. Because it does, it can act on its own regardless of the three propensities I talk about.   

So, many problems that we face are because that’s the problem. That’s the main cause of every problem that we face in our life. Starting with ourselves and because we are in that situation, dealing with others obviously exacerbates the situation. That’s (a) given.  

So, how do you go about dealing with your basic self? You know,  to me … perfection number. It’s the number 10. Number ten is the perfection number, individual perfection.  

But it happens on a physical level. If you break down the physicals you put, if you break down the physical part into formation growth and perfection, you do get nine and completion and management of rule will give you additional number; therefore perfection, completion number or management number, if you call it controlling your, I guess your maturation number.  

It doesn’t matter how you call it. It’s about controlling that phase. There is growth, there is formation phase, there is going to be a growth phase, there is going to be a perfection phase and every phase can to be chopped up into ten in completing it.

If completion is the end, which is the final number, you need to pause. Right? To deem such that you have the wherewithal to have management over it to others. Oh, no, you start with yourself. You expand out. You just have to prove it, right? But it starts with something of that nature. That’s the standard. There is always a standard in everything. 

So physical level there is a spiritual and  physical level you can look at it, on a formation level, you can break it down to three different manifestations of yourself in terms of your propensity, physical, mind, and spirit.  

You can chop it up into three. Body into physical-physical, physical-intellectual, physical-spiritual. Intellectual-physical, the next level will be intellectual-physical, intellectual-intellectual, intellectual-spiritual, spiritual-physical, you know, spiritual-intellectual, spiritual-spiritual, so on and so forth. 

That is a basic platform because it will basically break down from the basic block of individual self into just diversity, that’s about it, to create that number. And you look at that ten as one, body, then mind, then spirit. So you pretty much have to kind of go through thirty hoops. 

Only then, because even when you go through the first ten steps, all you are ready is to just receive nothing else other than, this is …just formation, physical phases, completed formation, physical formation. You’re basically ready to receive something that has to do with something in nature to conjugation. You’re in puberty. 

You know, for instances if some families, if they have some kind of situation where they can actually give and take with children, just do physical things and everything, there is a saying, ‘If you play together you stay together’. Okay, that’s physical stuff. 

And you get another. You go beyond it, beyond just physical playing and excitement and whatever pleasure you gain from life experience, in gregariousness. Beyond that, go do some little more intelligence involved. You start to start to create. 

I mean start with cooking. Let’s say that you have a situation where your children grow up to a point they start to actually help you and try to, you know, and you talk and you give and take, try to make the stupid food that you make everyday whether you are going to eat this everyday but you are going to somehow turn it into better. And you are going to give something into that dish. 

And that stuff is s a very, very important tool to your kids because they are going beyond just physical, physical intellectual whatever that comes from it, idea of speaking. They want more. And it’s intellectual. And of course, beyond that is spiritual. And that, even on a formative phase, every phase has formation, growth, and perfection. 

Formation, growth, and perfection is nothing other than body, mind, and spirit in that order. You need that stuff. It happens whether you like it or not. It’s there. But it’s important to recognize as such and teach the child as such because if you don’t, it can be anything. It can be whatever it can be out there.  

Once you don’t define it correctly, under your auspices, when you go out into the public in a multimedia setting as we know it today, free society it can be jumbled into anything. That whoever is in control (uses) to gain whatever the heck their agenda might be. That’s the problem. People have agendas. That’s why they become famous and they become powerful and rich. 

And then it’s, I mean, there aren’t that many Bill Gates. Even Bill Gates, he has acquired enough. Now he wants to be charitable. Okay? So that’s pretty much the highest standard in a secular world. 

So how do you go about controlling what affects your children? In the times when people are out there in the secular world who have way more control than you to oversee the airwaves through multimedia to bombard you with stuff that they in turn will benefit one person, themselves, and later on down the line, decades down the line, once they have accumulated enough they say, “I’m going to be charitable.” 

Well, do you think you should be at the mercy of those kinds of people, because they have done their game at your expense? They are not going to make their billions without you. I mean, it’s illegal to print money. You have to somehow legally take it out of your efforts.  

How do you control it? Do you leave it up to the people who are willing to in the end ultimately because you believe in almighty God in the end, everything will just flatten out, that they are going to be charitable, and you are going to be waiting for a long time.  

Now who’s the next in line after Bill Gates? I mean even Oprah and she says a lot of things. She is a very, very rich woman. She’s doing a lot of good things. That’s what she thinks. She has an agenda, too. And until she is ready because she’s dying, she has reached her end, because if you are intelligent you have to know your end, you have got to know your limit. Otherwise, you’ll be a stupid monkey.  

Whatever it’s coming, I might have the ability to control whatever the hell it was in the past and present, but what’s coming I can’t control. Smart people, normally, that’s when they retire. They start to become charitable. That’s about it.  

In almighty America, the most powerful nation, still when a woman raises an issue, she can bitch about it and still have a biting force, right? So that’s some teeth. It hurts when you chew, when you start chomping.  

Sure, then what? What are you trying to get to? What? I’m not going to try to discredit somebody today. I’m just going to talk about the basic stuff, the physical stuff at this point in time right now.  

Even the physical stuff has that kind of level. You go through that phase. When you look at your children, you see them struggling with physical-physical and physical-intellectual, physical-spiritual. That’s formation right there.  

Then they go to the next level. Then, instead of physical, they put intellectual. Then they go intellectual-physical, intellectual-intellectual, intellectual-spiritual. They try. They actually try to control it. You start to see that stuff.  

Then after that phase comes that spiritual phase. It’s the spiritual-physical. You know when they are actually going into that final phase. It’s not final phase but in that phase, it’s final. And that spiritual stuff, when they are struggling with physical stuff they are actually trying very hard to include you into that picture.  

On their own, they are thinking about you. They are thinking about what you think is important. What you told them all the years if you had them doing what you did, that they weren’t supposed to be doing, they’re actually thinking about that stuff.  

Physically, even the physical stuff that they do, they try to correct themselves. Or try to at least kind of merit themselves to the point that where you can kind of accept that. Yea, okay, you’re thinking.  

Then comes to the point when they’re actually intellectual, they are rationalizing that process. And they are ultimately in the end, they really want to do it because they believe its right.  

See, the only way you can feel, you can determine spirit is when you know what is right and wrong. It doesn’t matter whether you think like a bug. Well, if you think like a bug and you know what’s right and wrong like a bug, you know what’s right and wrong like a bug, in a spiritual way.  

And everybody has a place. Everybody has a place to begin. You know what I’m saying? And I don’t mean it’s in our place to make that judgment call. How does one start to realize what right and wrong is? 

It doesn’t matter. It can be in the depth of hell. It doesn’t always have to be in a plateau of  milk and honey and glory and all that. It doesn’t have to on a pedestal. It can be in the bottom of hell.  

Because God exists everywhere. Because if you can remember, God knew about good and evil right from the start, didn’t He? It’s the choice that He asked you to make. 

That’s the irony. You have no choice but you choose to accept the choice that I don’t have because I want to be part of your head, part of you. Because you are the almighty, you are the life-giving, omnipotent, omnipresent God that I need to learn a whole lot of stuff from. And I will follow you, I will learn from you. I will do my best to be your mirror-like person, to be your ultimate counterpart.  

And you measure yourself in that. Nobody set that standard. It’s up to you. How high do you want to go? How far do you want to go? Nobody tells you that you are going to do this, you are going to be doing this you are going to be doing that. But you are going to do right, and that’s the problem.  

That is why we have to think about the basic stuff always. That’s why it is important to remind ourselves of a basic right and wrong because we can get ahead of ourselves sometimes knowing (that), not knowing who we are, do things. And we have done that many times. That’s the problem.

It doesn’t matter what you think in your head that ‘I’m the greatest.’ Are you really? Based on whose standard? That’s why you get, you win American Idol. You become a star. (Laughs) Whoop-dee-doo. Oh yea.  

It doesn’t matter what you look like. You just sing well because that’s a program, it’s that kind of era. Because people are willing to do what the big boys (want) because they know. Oh they can make tons of money just showing it and after life make a movie. And those people are going to be a star instantly.  

Every criteria prior to this kind of reality goes off yonder. I mean just think about it. The…era of just radio waves stuff, you got to sound good. If you sound good, you can make it, right? Somehow.  

But you got to be lucky because not many people, only selected few are controlling this kind of airwaves. And they have all sorts of agendas, self-interest, obviously, for some other business.

And they actually did it and stuff and in the end obviously, they can’t really become responsible because it was just a kind of…. It’s not like multimedia as we know it today, all encompassing just in your face, you can know, and it seems like it’s up for grabs for all. It wasn’t like that.  

So, there’s a whole lot of politics. All sorts of different levels of strata, you know, strata, stratification that existed in all sorts of different, even in partial multimedia, because it was separated. It wasn’t unified like today. 

So all sorts of stuff, all sorts of wrong doing will crossover somehow that will lead into the general population. And you know, just mess up the rest of it here and there… That’s why it was so difficult to control.

But today, it’s very easy to control if you play the game like the big boys. Yes, I think we can do it. It takes investment. But I think we have the wherewithal to do it, tangibly speaking.

And just go down the list of how body and mind and spirit works in formation, growth, and perfection. If you can set the pace, and have the people who know what they are doing, just like the other guy, that’s all you need to do. Let the best man win, right? 

How did Fox Network and Rupert Murdoch... they started with the stupidest stuff. You know, Married with Children, and what is it, The Simpsons and all those crazy stuff. Then they start branching out into Cable and then News Network and, it only took them 10 years to become this.  

Yes, they put up lot of money. Look. If we alternate 2 billion dollars, get into print media, any monkey can do this stuff. When you got to have the resolve you got to deal with the a-holes that you got to, you have to lead. That’s about it. They can lead, no problem. If they can do it, we can do it.  

Look, it’s not about me being a star here, right? It’s about us winning as a greater family, right? Unification Church, right? Right? [Yes.] Yea. And I don’t think that, how is it any, people who know me, I don’t think I was the... I don’t think I ever did this stuff.  

I must have been stupid for reasons I don’t talk about because it’s my problem. And I bear the burden. That’s about it. Right? I pay my dues. I do the time. Not you. And I don’t believe there is anybody who knows me that accuses me of this stuff.  

Anyway, so what, who cares? What’s in the past is in the past, right? You move on. But wouldn’t it be great if every step we take is right in the eyes of God? Every choice we make will turn out to be something. You know, wouldn’t that be nice. It can be done. And that’s what we need to strive for.  

Hey, take it or leave it. That’s the privilege that I have. I can do it for free. That is not to say that I don’t know how to build myself from scratch.  

Anyway, I just want to fix this, just getting to know each other. Anyway, what you see is what you get. I’ll do my best not to lie to you. You want more? Well, we’ll see what more can happen.

(long pause) 

Take care of yourself. See you next week.