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Hyo Jin Moon

 

Convincing People That Father is the Messiah

 

Tarrytown, New York

May 14, 2006

Edited Transcript by Joe Kinney

 

There are a lot of young people here.

What is your greatest difficulty when you go out there and try to convince other people who we are? What is the most difficult thing that you face?  I guess it is to try to prove that Father is the Messiah. Right?

Let’s talk about the anti-Christ. What is the anti-Christ? Can anybody tell me what the anti-Christ means? Can you define to me what that is? You have to if you’re going to tell somebody else the opposite.

Many members in the room offer various answers including:

Somebody that says they have all the answers but doesn’t…

Someone who block people from following the messiah…

Communism…

Obstacle to coming to God…

(Hyo Jin Nim can’t hear someone’s answer and he says: "I’m sorry I have a lot of wax in my ear.")  So, what else? What else is the definition of the antichrist?  (He continues to encourage participation from the members and the replies continue for a while.)

(Somebody that prevents people from coming to the Christ.).

Knock yourself out. We have to talk about this stuff. The more of it, the better.

(Someone who is against human welfare…)

Okay, what else? Let’s talk about this stuff. Let’s talk about the antichrist before you talk about the Messiah.

Please enlighten me, and enlighten yourselves in the process because this is the opportunity, Come on! I’m all ears and everybody’s listening! You can say whatever you want.  (obstacles to coming to God) Well whatever.  More, I want more! Please, give me more. (Fallen culture)  Yes, give me more!  (anti-God)  Give me more! (anybody without mind and body unity)  Give me more! Go, give me more; give me more!  (Inaudible) Excuse me? (Somebody who tries to be the Messiah figure when actually they’re not.) Oh, okay, give me more. (Laughter all around)  Give me more; give me more; give me more; let’s go; let’s go!

Let’s just try to reach the end of what we have in and of our desire to understand what the answer is. I guess that’s why, if you want to start something, If you expect something from me because of my status (as Father’s son), at least give me the benefit of the doubt.

Give me more! (Answers continue to come)  Huh? I can’t hear out of this ear. One day this ear wax will fall out. I believe this stuff.  (any person or thought or experience that keeps us from fully accepting True Parents)  Whatever the heck  he said guys heard it. (laughter)

So, what else, Come on! Let’s go!  We want to go out there and try to convince people. Give me your best shot!  (some inaudible answer about Satan) Are you calling me Satan you little guy? (much laughter) Okay I’ll see you later…. You know Satan that closely huh? (laughter) Does he look like me? (laughter continues)

(Hyo Jin Nim’s expression becomes more serious and he begins to speak again)  I believe that the best definition when you come to that kind of question and that kind of questioning... You have to define individualism as a concept, that is wrong in concept.  The anti-Christ in its self is the concept of individualism.

It is very very important. You have to look at it as a concept not a single individual. You’re not looking for a Devil here. It’s a concept a concept called individualism. That’s what antichrist is.  Even the old guys like St Augustine talked about that stuff.  You have to understand that there is a possibility of anti-Christ in you.

Unless you address the anti-Christ inside yourself you can’t fulfill our duty correctly as Moonies. You have to get individualism out of the picture. You have to nullify that nonsense. Because it will get you if you don’t do it right, if you don’t answer the question correctly. You know what I am saying?

It’s a concept; anti-Christ is a concept, not an individual.  Trust me on this. This will live for a long time, this is a good gig. Trust me.  From here you build your understanding. I want to show you guys something, something that you can do something with, I guess.  I don’t know you guys that well, but that’s important. You have to look at it that way. It’s a concept that is wrong, not an individual.

Why? Because remember the fall in itself in the Garden of Eden, that kind of mythological story, something like that. It’s the opposite of that.  Individual stuff became a concept. Do you understand? Trust me on this!  If you want to fix it, then go back to what went wrong. And what went wrong is that just in reality as you and I know it, reality as a concept; we have to change the concept.

If you can change that concept, then you can change the essence.  I’m sure that you have a lot to say about why you don’t want to be a selfish idiot.  You want to suffer for the sake of the greater; you want to die for… Hey, look…. So be it!

Life is short.  Life is short.  Life is short.

Put it into perspective, on your own, somebody will tell you how to do it. If nobody does, then you can do it on your own eventually. That’s it.  God will win.  Don’t take yourself that seriously. You will die.  What do you think that all this stuff is about?

In some ways it is kind of like predestination, isn’t it? Everything is about predestination. If it’s about that and in the end if God wins, it’s about predestination. Trust me. Okay?  If somebody wins in the end, no matter what you do. That’s called predestination. So what does that mean?  How do we understand the concept of predestination?

Let me tell you my opinion whether you like it or not. It’s all about give and take, learning about give and take. If God is the Almighty, that’s it.  It’s all about learning about the true process of ontology. That’s it.  And why do we need good examples? Why? Because we DO need good examples to tell us what good actions are. That’s why we need good models.

I know that you can think about all these things, but without really trying. the least we can do is think about it. That’s about it. It’s pathetic, but it’s true, absolutely true.   What do you do with your thinking? How do you make things go forward, which you believe? If you want to make money, then go make money. I don’t care.

Have something, regardless of what you believe. Do something! Do something beyond…  Be a man!  Be a woman!  Be human!  Animals just act to survive.  We think that we can get away with a whole lot of stuff where in the animal kingdom there’s no way you could survive.

So do something; do something. Say something. If you want to think something and make that thinking into something that affects someone next to you, now that’s very difficult. That’s difficult, very difficult.

Do you think that you have something that can you change the thinking of the person next to you already in your possession, in your control, in your dominion? If you do then you’re good; you’re set; you have no problems.

All you have to do is improve and increase that. Whatever you believe in, make it bigger; make it better. I don’t know what it is. I don’t know you.  You want to die for something? You have to die for something.  If you want to live then you have to think about dying, otherwise you’re not truly balanced.

If you want to be in control in your life then you’d better know how you’re going to die. Trust me, if you don’t understand that stuff, you’re not going to make it. Trust me.  Anyway, if you want to live, you’d better know how you’re going to die.

Why? Because you want to be individual; you want to be AMERICAN! (laughing, the last sentence was a joke) Okay, no problem, be a great American, but you’re in control, nobody else. You know what it is. You know why you’re living; you know why you’re dying, and you’re going to do your best, do as much as you can; be the best you can be for what is important to you. That’s about it.

That is the basic premise about why you believe in God, in my view.  I don’t care what you think. (emotional pause)  But I have to live with this till the day that I die, knowing that I have to deal with this truth. (long pause)  What do you say guys? That’s about it and you die.

Every year you try to do your best and it never ends. You want to live for others. There is no other way. If you have a better idea, then you do it.  There is no easy way when it comes to some things.  What can we do together with each other? I hope that we have good people here that can do what we have to accomplish.

That’s all I hope for. I don’t want anything else.  In the end it’s communication. It’s all about communication. You know that. Right? In the end that’s all that is important. You know that’s important to you young people. 

It is all about communication. It doesn’t matter how it’s approached or the style in which it’s delivered, presented. The only important thing is that the message is delivered. So how do you go about communicating the message?

Some people think that we need to have an Air-Force and a Navy and an Army. If you want to put it into that context, then go ahead. Knock yourself out!  This is the twenty-first century, you have to take initiative. If you understand the direction, then do something about it and take responsibility for it and inspire other who are doing the same like you.

I know that I’m going to die, but let me die harder; let me die faster; let my death be more relevant. Can you inspire me to do that? That’s a good thing for you. If you help somebody, some pathetic fool, that’s a good thing.   Why did all the young people come here all of a sudden? (Someone says that they are from STF. There were 3 STF vans parked)

I was comfortable with all the old folks that are dying. Now I have to think different. 

(Addressing the 2nd gen)

This stuff is important, everyday give and take. Preaching is important. Regimentation is very important. You have to train yourself. You can do crazy stuff but the regimentation is important too. You have to know how to balance that polar opposite. That is the only way you can realistically control reality. If you think you can, only time will tell. So be it.

Basically that’s how you’re going to go about trying to prove that stuff.  Why? Because you live for somebody else, not yourself. Right?  Trust me, that’s important when you think that me standing here saying this to you guys is important.

You have to live this stuff that we are talking about.  It is important.  Trust me.  It is very important. It doesn’t matter what you get out of it for yourself, if you want top do this, you have to do this for your own sanity, and your own reality, and balance.  and if you don’t do it you will get corrupted. Trust me.

Your life is short; and you yourself have to be sure that you know what it means when you say “I live for the sake of others.” It is true. Trust me.  So that’s why you have to know how to plan your life and know how to die well!

You want to be smart? That is smart.  If you can do that, you’ll be a free man.  Remember: The anti-Christ is not an individual; it is a concept.  Trust me.  This gig will last a long time, but we’ll see. In my mind, it will. It’s a good gig. 

Anyway…..Nice to see you again okay guys? (See you again soon! Laughter)

I’ll see you again next week. Okay?

I’ll see you later okay?

 

 

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