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Hyo Jin Moon

 

Something in the Middle Called Life

 

Tarrytown, New York

February 19, 2006

Edited Transcript

 

Good morning.  (Good morning)

 

You guys like it short right?  (no)  What does that mean?

 

What’s a good length?  I guess I have a demand for a specific quantity of time.  Okay, anyway.  Today’s topic is something called life in the middle, something in the middle called life.  If you think, if there is anything that you have no choice over, I guess that’s birth and death, right?  So based on birth and death there is something in between there is something called life.

 

Oh people can say that, “because we understand, because of modern technology and science, we can literally create babies.”  You know, through in-vitero fertilization you can literally create something on a Petri dish.  But even that argument, ya know, because the only thing you’ve achieved is (the) understanding of how things work.  Knowledge, the nature of the knowledge is knowing what works based on a blue print, how things work.  That’s all it is.

 

So you can’t really take that kind of credit to yourself.  Because, think about it, what about the kid,   who’s born out of that circumstance, did he have a choice,  becoming that kind of person without father or mother, ya know, and going through the  natural process of becoming a child?  That’s why you have a moral issue, dilemma.  When you take certain things out of context just because you have certain knowledge, therefore power, just because you know how to manifest certain things, that does not always construe into (the) conclusion that it’s right.  Right?

 

So, even death, too you can kill yourself, right.  Obviously if you prepare that moment of departure, ya know getting rid of whatever problem through suicide. Normally children, young kids, or even people if they’re old, they’re doin’ it because they want to depart from that kind of humiliation, all the indignation that comes from social, I guess, pressure or rejection.  So you pick your time and you know exactly how you’re going to depart.  But that does not mean that you can argue that even with birth and death you can have control. 

 

So, having said that, certain things you have no control over, but the funny thing is called life.  We think we have something we control and that’s where all sorts of interesting stuff happens.  Many times it can be good but many times it can not so be the way you want it to be.  Let’s talk about that stuff. That stuff in the middle, that something in the middle that gives you that power, that control of making a choice.

 

So when you talk about choice making stuff, ya know, you start from young age and you move up and you mature, you get older and older and older and you are faced with a lot of challenges and the pressure that comes with making the right choice.  And let’s just think about on a just the purest practical physical level, just try to kind of define life in itself.  Let’s say that you live ninety years.  Most people sleep it off, one third of it.  So basically sleep off thirty years and you have sixty years to work with.  Pretty much thirty more years you kind of, you use it to put stuff into your body and pass it through and clean it (laughter) and you wait for something and you move your body from point A to point B trying to be somebody.  So you basically got out of ninety years, one third of stuff to try to prove.  And what is proving, defining who you are, and finding (yourself)?  Obviously if you have to define you have to know your limitation, you have to know your capability to do so.

 

So think about most kids they go through, before you enter so-called society normally you spend like, I guess twenty years or something, eighteen years, sixteen years in “educational” institutions.  So that they can prepare themselves to know how to and learn things, learn something, skills, to know how to make a living so you can take care of yourself, so you can ultimately find a life quest.  Defining yourself and being something that you should, that you want to be.  Whether it’s taught or self, I guess, promoted.  Pretty much that’s the process that everybody must bear.  And I don’t think there’s an exception to that rule.

 

Somehow, someway you have to count for that measure in order to be something in society, to make a difference.  But let’s not even talk about making a difference.  Just start and that’s pretty much the challenge that you have to face and based on challenges you have to make choices.

 

Okay, who’s the biggest employer?   I guess it’s the government.  That’s the biggest employer in any kind of nationalistic setting, right?  And I guess after that in America, now the biggest corporation is Wal-Mart, right?  (laughter) That’s pretty sad story.  But then of course there are bigger corporations, ya know, on military contract, and the corporations that have military contracts and things like that, who does a lot of technical things, because they pretty much hold all the engineers.  The government owned agency of NASA whether it’s Lockheed Martin, Northup Grumman, General Dynamics, things of that nature, pretty much all those stuff holds all even on an engineering aspect, they control pretty much anybody who’s anybody.  But even those people without government assistance, even things that are necessary for them to succeed, in order to compete with the rest of the world, in terms of specific stuff such as technical engineering, whatever, creating a product, you can’t have it without government support. And because it takes tremendous time to make a meaningful, ya know, discovery, development, and innovation.


So then it’s kind of free market stuff and I think free market gets overrated.  Because, ya know, I don’t think it’s the fuel for the desire for money, creating, is the basic essence that creates betterment.  They know how to take certain things and apply it simply because quantity, quality, speed matters in marketing based on supply and demand, you really need to, that’s why you take whatever knowledge that is out there that is meaningful and you somehow apply it and format it into your product so that you can make money. 

 

But even when you talk about those kind of stuff, what happens?  What’s the end?  Is money the most important thing?  Or because money can give you a lot of stuff, it can give you personal indulgence, whatever?  And at the same time money can also translate into power.  So what does that mean that power and money is everything?  I don’t think so.  Because when you talk about power and money, power is only good when you can understand how the power system works.  And why is that?   Why does it exist?  Power exists because you want to move a greater self in a certain direction, that’s about it.  That’s all it’s for.  But people abuse it.

 

How many people in power, in high places really like to spend time with the people on the bottom?  Do they really care about them, do they want to live with them, I don’t think so.  What about people with money?  Let’s say you have all the money in the world, then what happens?  You buy stuff for yourself, but if you do have something of that nature I think the best investment if you’re smart is investing in people.  But how many people right off the bat, coming out of, with all this knowledge that I can make money, I mean to have control over the universe, ya know, do that as an initial goal?  People don’t do that.

 

That’s why even the basic stuff that you strive for, just to make a living, because you have to understand, people do desire those stuff because ultimately they want to climb up, they want to be, they have this thing called desire to move up and up and up and up.   And without properly defining why we have those things and why we need to use those things in certain ways for the sake of greater, for a certain standard, a higher standard.  Unless that is benchmark it is very difficult to achieve a greater society.  Why, because the definition gets lost and everybody under them will start to fight it, and that’s why it becomes very difficult to come together and unify, even just a single nation.  I mean never mind the world.

 

The biggest employers are the government, the who’s next, Wal-Mart?! In America, oh my goodness.  I mean, you walk into Wal-Mart what do you see?  A bunch of clothes, and they have this Sam’s Club that is part of Wal-Mart, right? (laughter) And you walk in there and there’s a bunch of TVs a bunch of clothes, a bunch of food stuff.  I mean it’s about putting something in your body and putting something on your body, and keeping your body preoccupied with something.  That’s all it is!  And they’re the biggest employer next to the government, one of the largest.  And that’s a sad commentary when you look at it, when you look at a nation of this magnitude.

 

Ya know, people with kind of tradition they normally tell their, they want their children, “you grow up to be a doctor, lawyer, or accountant, or at least an accountant” something like this. (laughter) People have some kind of need all the time. (laughter) Ya know.  Koreans do that and I think a lot of Jewish parents do that to their children.  I don’t know about Americans but people in a country with kind of tradition put tradition forth like that.  They demand that kind of stuff.  Why do we demand that kind of stuff to our children?  What are we expecting?  What does that mean?  Why do you need to be a doctor?  Why do I have to be a doctor?  Why do I have to be a lawyer?  Why do I have to be an accountant?  Because that’s the safest way I guess, a thinking parent, a concerned parent, that I want my children to have some kind of security.  That’s about it isn’t it?

 

As long as you have that, I don’t expect much, but as long as you have that, ya know, I’m happy.  I don’t think I’m sending my children to be a doctor so they can create a cure for cancer.  I don’t think every parent desires that, expect that, maybe they desire that, but I don’t think they expect it.  Maybe you guys, if you want to send your children to be a lawyer, maybe to become a lawyer, maybe you want your children to go out and defend God and ultimately win, in your favor.  Maybe that’s your desire, but I don’t think that’s what everyone thinks. 

 

So within that kind of stuff out of ninety years maybe thirty years or something you need to find who the hell you can be, what are your limits, you gotta know your capability and you gotta prove something.  And hopefully if you believe in something, like you do, that you can use that time to make a difference.  Well how do you make that kind of difference?  How do you become somebody, when you have to start just like everybody else, to become somebody who can actually make a difference?

 

I guess the only way is to have some kind of direction or value, I like to call it a direction that outshine something else, other things in the realm of competition.  Do we have such a thing?  You have to ask yourself that question.  If you do how do you utilize it in your life?  What can you do with it?  Those are the basic questions you have to ask yourself and have answers.  Many times it’s very easy, because basically you deal with kind of dualistic reality, ya know, in reality.  Because you can be very pessimistic, you can be optimistic, you can be kind of critical, you can try and at the same time the opposite will try to come up with something, solution.  You can love or hate and all kind of that stuff.  You have all this dual things that you’re dealing with constantly in every aspect of life.  Everything that you interact with, experience, it demands that kind of question. It challenges you, many times it forces you sometimes, ya know, to have an answer.  Give an answer right away!  And that’s the difficult challenge. 

 

So you have to have a, that’s why you have, you need a greater principle, right?  That’s why you believe in higher power because it demands that challenge of immediacy.  It’s overwhelming.   Because many times if you goof up, you’re gonna pay for it.  You’re going to stand and face that consequence that you have committed, then you can’t blame no one else.  That’s why it becomes necessary to understand properly.  I believe the reality of God the demand of God.  That’s called responsibility.  God’s demand is called responsibility.

 

I wish I didn’t, it’s fun do be irresponsible isn’t it? (laughter) It’s fun to not care, yeah. (laughter) I’ll blow off… I’m really gonna try hard not to curse okay? (laughter) Children, people have children.  Because it’s kind of natural for me, it’s how I grew up.  That’s the kind of people that I was part of, that I saw most of the time.  (laughter) But I think I’m okay.  I know how to behave if I want to. 

 

Anyway, so, how do you, how do we actually live up to that demand, that ultimate demand?  And we worry about the people who make stuff, worry about supply and demand.  ‘Oh, my product has to be such and such so I can put it to the market and demand will come forth and I’ll make tons of money.  Of course demand is important to everyone whether you believe God or not.  And that’s how you make money, that’s how the world goes around, right?  You make money or you shoot up the ladder of the totem pole that you’re a part of, because every boss has a demand.

So, if you create that kind of openness and that creates betterment, betterment? In what?  In a better safety?  I guess that’s the point.  But beyond that, what?  Better fashion? Better whatever.

 

There’s a limitation to that.  What if everybody can do that?  What if the whole world can do that?  What happens to that kind of industry?  What happened to that kind of market place?  It’ll be pretty much, will be kind of very nationalistic…  Well since everything’s safe and since I’m American, I should buy American products.  If I’m Korean, I should buy Korean product.  Everything’s safe, there’s no need if I’m Korean to buy American product or anybody else’s stuff.  That’s about it, isn’t it?

 

Let’s say we reach that, and it’s not that far away, and just think about it in just a short period of time Koreans are competing with the big boys.  Selling big items, huge items, pretty much anything that is big that carries things around whether it’s oil or merchandise, ya know, they build it and you drive around in it.  Even in America, if Koreans can do it so can everybody else.  Then what?  I know it’ll take about ten generations, but in a very short period of time, we’ll be faced with that kind of reality, when everybody becomes nationalistic.  Then what happens?

 

And that’s why…greater value, right.  Because you have to make choices everyday and sometimes it’s overwhelming.  Everybody feels that stuff and that’s called life.  And pretty much the reason that Father says certain things in certain ways and things are done, it’s pretty much done because of that reality.  It’s not that far what I’m tellin’ ya to be manifested.  When that happens, that’s about it.  Who has a greater value?  Whose value out of the greatness is the greatest!! (laughter)  They can tie in everything and there is racial propensity, there is a difference.  Transcending all those basic stuff, we can talk about.  I said I’ll do for a year.  But I like to keep it short because you like it short. (laughter)

 

Practically speaking this stuff is just good for a week that’s about it.  And if you can have something, if I give you something, that’s all it’s worth, period, it’s over, game over.  Ya gotta move on.  It’s always that way.  You can’t try to cram…maybe you do it as a condition, for spiritual, heavenly condition, but in all do respect, in practicality it doesn’t work.  At best if I can give you one or two thoughts, that’s about it, that you can think about for a week, that’s all it’s worth and everything else is overrated. 

 

That’s why, otherwise you’re going to do this kind of thing, you need somebody that can do this for life, that’s about it.  I don’t think so.  You gotta know your limit.  Everything has a limit in life.  Many times that’s a challenge, that’s another personal challenge, individual challenge, knowing your limit.  There are many things that can overwhelm you and many times it’s that vainglorious stuff, that stuff, that can really hurt you. 

 

That’s why you have to understand why you are doing something. (laughter) You have to define everything that you do.  You want to be right?  You literally have to define everything you do, don’t think about other people, don’t judge other people.  Define what you do and stand by it.  You have no time to worry about other people, because they have to do the same.  And know it and keep it true the best you can.  There’s no guarantee in life.  But as long as you’re willing to do it, make it so, make it intricate make it a short term goal, okay I’m going to try to do that everyday.  Wake up and I’m going to try and think like that.  Long term goal, I’ll die for it.  Look, whatever it takes.  If you have something of that nature I think that’s called a personal value.  I think that’s safe to call that a personal value.  Because whatever you do, you will face it one way or the other, right or wrong, right or wrong.

 

This thing called “life in the middle”.  It’s just doing that.  Knowing who I am.  Finding what I can do. And what I have to do for a greater cause, a higher cause.  And know I’ll die well, I guess.  That’s the greatest control, I guess.  That’s the greatest choice, therefore, you can make.  Every choice is a control issue, right. 

 

I’ve made stupid choices in my life, so I’ll pay for it till the day that I die.  That’s about it.  And it’s my problem, that’s about it.  Don’t need you to think about it, I can take care of it.  And when I was a young buck, I always tried to be a cool guy, ya know? (laughter)

 

Anyway take care of yourself, okay? 

 

Was it short enough? (laughter) 

 

I’ll see you next week, okay?

 

 

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